Pennsylvania Restaurant Bans Kids Under 6

The owner of a Monroeville, Pennsylvania restaurant has told his customers that they need to be 6 and up in order to be admitted. No exceptions, according to a Pittsburgh TV station. “We feel that [our restaurant] is not a place for young children,” the owner, Mike Vuick, said to customers in an e-mail. “Their volume can’t be controlled and many, many times, they have disturbed other customers.”

 

“You know, their children – maybe as it should be – [are] the center of their universe,” Vuick continued. “But they don’t realize it’s not the center of the universe.” (July 2011)

gramma907
07.22.11

I AGREE and Applaud. When we go out to a NICE place (expensive) after 7 or 8- it is to enjoy ADULT time. What good parent even allows small kids UP after 8PM? I am often appalled at how much mess I see parents allowing their small kids to make in a public place! Like pigs.

Once, I stopped going to any place except fast food with one of my galpals when she had her toddler with- she would put any and all food in front of the kid (even salad, peas, mashed potato)and let the kid have at it. I would say- hey do that at home not here- she'd blow it off. You should have seen the disgusted looks from the waitresses!

NORMAL folks- if you Do bring a toddler- you FEED them and only give them some "finger-type" bites of select items for them to handle! not let them swill.

I LIKE to be able to go to a more upscale place without the boorish parents allowing the little piggies, thanks.

Too many people have such bad manners overall- they can go to fast food spots, please, not to nice places, thank-you.

I say if someone is offended by the ban, that is too bad.

maryellie
07.20.11

A restaurant would not choose to do this unless it believed that the market would support this choice. I, for one, support it. This restaurant's customers might very well have demanded this strategy. When my husband and I go out for a grownup night, we pony up to pay the babysitter. We choose more upscale restaurants and are often dismayed by having to deal with other people's noisy kids who are clearly unhappy in such a buttoned-down environment. These restaurants are not family friendly. There are oodles of family-friendly places - and plenty that are gourmet (the food is upscale, the atmosphere is laid back). Now...if only movie theaters would implement an adults-only screen or two for evening shows, we'd really be onto something!

monkeywoman
07.20.11

I wholeheartedly support banning kids in many restaurants, and I would love to see child-free movie theaters as well! I have a two and five year old whoare made to behave but still get unruly on occasion. We stick to loud, known child-friendly restaurants with them. For nicer times, we get a sitter! If you can't afford a nice meal out and a sitter -sorry-you made the choice to have your children just like I did. I love my little guys, but when I'm out without them I don't want to be around any children or have to hear their noise. Children don't belong everywhere -like in upscale restaurants or grown-up/late movies! I have a feeling that those so appalled by this are the same parents who allow their kids to ruin the rest of our dining experiences by running amok, yelling and being out of hand.

bronco4425
07.20.11

HELL YES. SCREAMING KIDS SHOULD BE LEFT HOME. too many people today give into their kids because they are too busy working and such and don't want to hear their kids crying so they get whatever they want. also "POLITICALLY" wrong and afraid of cps and what other people think -- PEOPLE - A LITTLE SMACK ON THE ASS NEVER KILLED ANY OF US. we're all still here

morekare
07.19.11

Certainly it's all right to ban children from certain restaurants but that will certainly decrease their business because most families go to dinner or lunch with their children. Children are a blessing for their parents/grandparents but could be a nuisance for other people I can understand that. I was on-call for a homehealth agency and I had no baby sitter so I told my 5 year old son to wait in the car while I ran in to change a patient's catheter. He got scared so while I was inside I heard a commotion at the front door and the patient's wife and daughter were screaming that I had no right to bring my child into their home. True. He was scared and only 5 years' old so he knocked on their door to come into the house to be with me. Then I heard about this from my supervisor. I QUIT! SCREW THE HOMEHEALTH AGENCY, THE PATIENT AND THEIR FAMILY! IF THEY COULD NOT ACCOMODATE A 5 YEAR OLD CHILD FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES THEN I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL. EXCUSE ME FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH AS I FEEL IT BUT THIS RESTAURANT BUSINESS REMINDED ME OF MY OWN EXPERIENCE.

pittardm
07.19.11

There's a restaurant in our area that has a kid's room. Only one I know of. It has kid-sized tables, they run kids' movies, serve food from a kids' menu, and supervise the kids while the parents have a nice, generally uninterrupted meal.

stevie
07.19.11

Absolutely ok. The restaurant and the family know the expectations right up front. I feel very uncomfortable when a place claims it's kid friendly but really it's not.

kkendall
07.19.11

Of course they have the right to choose to not invite young children into their restaurant. I'd rather know up front that kids aren't welcome than to go there with my kids and get bad service and feel like we're unwelcome. I would still go to a restaurant like that with my girlfriends and on date nights and I'd be very excited to know that there wouldn't be a whiny baby nearby when I've left mine at home for the evening. I wouldn't mind a restaurant that was for 12 and up. ;o)

DebD
07.19.11

Deb,SF/HI

Question: "Is it Okay to Ban Children from Restaurants?"

Sure -- in Paris! No, wait, it's not Okay in Paris, either.... It is just tolerated, as a matter of (child-hating) custom. Is this really what we want in the U.S.?

Food establishment admission rules, with "no exceptions," are just plain wrong. If it is not a bar, or an adults-only venue, then it should be a place open to all humans, regardless of age.

Most parents are quite responsible for their children in public places. Those who are not should not become the rule, rather than the exception. It is unreasonable to think otherwise.

If a child is particularly unruly (on any given day), or if an ancient grandparent is particularly -- hmmmm -- "gaseous" that day, or if anyone is stinky, smelly, or even not attired within the restaurant's dress code, then fine, do not seat them or ask them to leave.

Where food is served to the general public, blanket exclusion by age is discriminatory at best, very likely unconstitutional, and without a doubt just plain wrong.

mrsncook
07.19.11

This has been on several local news sites, and I say the same thing: "It's discriminatory and rude." The completely ban children because some children's parents are irresponsible is wrong. I have worked hard to teach my children to behave and to have proper manners even from a year old. I told the restaurant that there is a place that put signs up that screaming children will not be tolerated, and I completely agree with them. Screaming anyone should not be tolerated, and I think that's a shame they even have to put up a sign. As for the Pittsburgh restaurant in this latest news story, I think they go too far by banning children altogether. I encouraged them to rethink their policy to allow well behaved people but to ask parents who allow their children to run wild not to come back. The owner listened politely to my suggestion; on the news he responded to criticism that he doesn't care, because the people who don't like the ban are the ones that allow their children to act up and are the ones he doesn't want. I think he's going to find that overall it hurts business more than it helps, but it's his place and his choice. It's a darned shame he feels that way, but I agree that there are some slack parents out there who don't teach their children proper behavior and who should be asked to leave.